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Post by johnnyboy666 Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:06 pm

I'd better introduce myself, I've been browsing for a while, but have only just become a hijet owner!

After a very early start, 4 and a half hours on a train, a dash to the post office and an exchange of cash, I was the proud owner of a bit of an ugly duckling of a hijet. It's a 1.2 diesel pickup, which has been rather badly painted, but had 6 months MOT on it, so I decided to attempt to drive it for the 150 miles home. The guy I got it off hadn't driven it since august when the tax ran out so it took a while for it to loosen up and for me to get used to it. But I made it home in one piece with the only real problem being a slow puncture.

I've got a million and one questions to ask you all already, but I'll have a search round the forum before I bombard people!

If anybody could point me in the right direction of the following, that would be great:
-info on the 1.2 diesel engine
-info on anything useful specific to pickup models
-a guide to replacing handbrake cables
- any good places to get parts

I'm generally quite keen to get my hands dirty and also have a Peugeot 205 GT and am building a honda cx500/650 motorbike at the mo ( i've noticed a few of you are bikers)


cheers

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Post by Logi Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:46 pm

Welcome to the site, not a lot of diesels on here, but it made it home and was still running without any overheating issues, you've got a good 'un Wink

Yer building a flying dung beetle, eh? Haven't seen on for years, used to be hundreds about.
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Post by johnnyboy666 Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:33 pm

Although there was some slight movement on the temperature guage, I'm not entirely convinced it works! But no coolant puking out anywhere so thats probably a good sign (?)

Flying dung beetle? That's a new one on me! I have heard that the germans affectionately call them the 'sh*tepumps'
My bike is actually a bit of a frankenstein creation, part gl500, part cx500, part cx650 eurosport and part cbr600rr. *EDIT: and part finished!*

I suspect the hijet will end up very far from standard if my track record is anything to go by!

Should I go under the assumption that engine bays (mounting points etc) are different on the petrol models and diesel models? I'm pretty sure that's the case with rascals and supercarry's

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Post by HighlyJetted Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:11 pm

Yes, engine mount points are different on the chassis itself from what I have been told.

Piaggio put holes and captive nuts in different places for the petrol and derv.

I wrote this little page a while back:- http://www.daihatsuhijet.co.uk/hijet-piaggio-porter-lombardini-1-2-1-4-diesel-engines/

In all honesty, those dervs in my opinion are a bit errmm, individual! You will find it ultra ultra hard to get various parts for it, and timing those engine is a nightmare needing specialist tools. Read the manual regards injector settings.

Not saying they don't work ok, but when they go wrong they often get scrapped. I have 3 people who ring me monthly asking for the same bits. Another guy has let me know he scrapped his after failing to find a vacuum pump for about 6 months.
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Post by johnnyboy666 Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:43 pm

When I get chance I'll see if I can get some decent photos of how the engine is mounted and compare it to a petrol.
Its definitely an interesting engine to drive, in a 'what the hell were they thinking' kind of way!
I think the shell and chassis are in pretty good condition except the poor paint job, so I expect if I do have any problems with this engine, I could find something a little more interesting to shoe-horn in there!
Yes I'd already spotted that page(and the rest) and theres some really handy info, thanks for that!

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Post by Guest Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:25 pm

Welcome to the Forum with your Flyinging Dung Beetle J.B. New one on me that one Logi but I like it as Dick Emery used to say. 

I have got a 1.2 "P" reg diesel for spares though a few thing have sold off of it. Most engine bits are there plus starter Gearbox axle springs prop radiator etc . 

Have fun in your new beast but get used to being thrashed away from the the Lights by the petrol 1000 and 1300 Hi-Jets. You will think you have left your handbrake on .  

Beauty with the pickups is that you can really throw them round the corners and hang the tail
and most 1300s will go off the clock. Havent a clue where the Diesel runs out of  steam though J.B.

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Post by johnnyboy666 Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:38 pm

It wouldn't make too much difference if I had left the handbrake on, the cables are rotten through! !
I think my top speed today was a whopping 64mph!
And it was screaming! I think after a good once over I'll have her running a bit smoother, I have a suspicion that there's an exhaust leak somewhere judging by the amount of noise, which is probably sapping a bit of oomph.

I may well be in touch when I figure out what parts I might need, at the moment I'm going to need handbrake cables and a speedo cable (I read somewhere £70!??)

Also, how the hell do the back wheels stay on with no flange on the hubs?? Or am I missing something?

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:01 am

Studs by the sound of things !! Rolling Eyes  bounce

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Post by johnnyboy666 Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:23 am

Ha! Studs are there thankfully, but I would've expected something that is made for carrying cargo would have a flange to take the weight rather than just studs?

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Post by Logi Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:16 am

Back in the olden days long long ago that was how wheels were attached. Wink
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Post by FrontBackSide2Side Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:07 pm

Welcome to the forum Smile
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Post by Tuskano Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:32 am

From one noob to another, welcome to the forums! Hope your plans work well. I'll have to be replacing my handbrake cable as well. It was snapped when I bought it and the owner gave me a replacement cable along with the purchase to install later. Still have not really found time to do it as I have gotten used to parking with my shifter in gear... which I should stop getting used to hahaha.
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Post by johnnyboy666 Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:04 pm

I've been parking in gear too, and also popping a couple of small chocks under the wheels, but of course yesterday I forgot the chocks were there and drove over them! And today I forgot it was in gear and tried to start it!
so now ive put myself a little note in the cab!

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Post by Tuskano Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:30 am

johnnyboy666 wrote:I've been parking in gear too, and also popping a couple of small chocks under the wheels, but of course yesterday I forgot the chocks were there and drove over them! And today I forgot it was in gear and tried to start it!
so now ive put myself a little note in the cab!

I don't have chocks... but if I am cleaning it in the driveway and have to climb on the back, I through my carjack under a tire. It works lol. I have forgotten too when it is in gear and am starting, both in reverse and in 1st hehe.

Another time was when I tried to start it when the L/N/H shifter was in neutral. I did not get very far until with help from a friend I noticed it. That was after we left a very excited 5 year old girl playing in the cab... Somehow they are great toys for kids to play in due to their size Very Happy
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Post by Guest Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:01 am

Logi wrote:Back in the olden days long long ago that was how wheels were attached. Wink
In your younger days Logi they also had knives protruding from the spoked wheels ( wooden ones with no Dunlop covering either  Laughing ). 

J.B. & Tuskano you SOUND a good bit younger than me ( I have got 13 months before I draw my full pension though I have been fortunate to be getting a Civil Servants Pension -- index linked since  1989 which has been a great help ) so what the hell are you gonna be like when you reach my present age???   Evil or Very Mad  Evil or Very Mad  . In all seriousness I have been doing those sorts of daft things all my life. I could fill a book ---- affraid . 

If you have problems finding a Hand brake cable I  could with a lot of arm twisting be persuaded to take one off an axle for you under great protest. 
It sounds to me J.B. that its more a case like me of finding the motivation to get round to doing the job --- am I right ?? 

Dont know how far back you have dug back into the Forum Annals but I have 6 pick ups two of them Tippers and all 1300s plus the Diesel 1.2 for spares.
Three of them are also LPG . The 05 plate one has done 34000 miles and I am when time permits I have a 1600 Grand Move engineto put in it when the weather picks up in Spring/Summer. 
 
The Hi-Jet spares business is a hobby that has overtaken the Handyman Services and Flat roofing so trying to find time to send out spares at times
can be a Logistical Nightmare. 

 Very Happy  Very Happy By the way the Civil Servant job I retired from was an HGV driving job for nine years with the local Council ----- Driving a Dustcart !!! 
I am not bothered what I do so long as I am happy at what I am doing and the Hi-Jet Spares Business certainly fulfills that criteria. Woody.

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Post by johnnyboy666 Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:26 pm

Hold on a minute, L/N/H shifter? Do they all have these??
Woody- you're on the right track there, I am the tender age of 25! Mind you the way things are going, retirement will be a long forgotten myth by the time I reach 104 or whatever the pension age will be by then!
Regarding the handbrake cables, I think my first port of call is to take one off and see what the ends look like, as I reckom I could modify one of my copious spare Peugeot ones to fit if they're just a standard cable end.
I forsee this project being done on a tight budget!

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Post by Tuskano Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:49 pm

Wow, I'll be 25 in a few months. Military here, so when I "retire" it will be around 40ish if I do my full 20. I'll be lucky if I get to 104... I would possibly be doing the same things as I am now.

Yep, you would have 4 wheel high, neutral, and low. It is on the driver's side next to the handbrake. If I remember correctly without going outside and staring at the handbrake cable I have to put in, the forward side is threaded with a nut and the aft end is attached to a box with bolts I think. The whole thing is a good foot and a half to two feet.
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Post by Logi Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:04 pm

No, your pickup won't be 4wd, they are rarer than rocking horse teeth, sadly Sad

Tuskanos is a rare beastie
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Post by Logi Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:04 pm

No, your pickup won't be 4wd, they are rarer than rocking horse teeth, sadly Sad

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Post by Tuskano Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:10 pm

Are they really? Wow... then I'll have to read up on that then. As I was typing that I was wondering if 4wd came with all trucks or if there were ones that were just rwd.
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Post by Logi Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:28 pm

Well, they're rare in the UK.
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Post by johnnyboy666 Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:22 pm

Damn, I thought for a second there might be another ratio that would allow me to beat my current top speed of 64!

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Post by Tuskano Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:07 pm

There are hills. And slowly speeding up over time in the excitement of staying with current traffic. Did that once when I was on the highway late to get to the movies with a friend... look down at the gauge, and am going 130ish kph! Was too fast for comfort and ended up slowing down to my normal 115 that I can usually do with.
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Post by johnnyboy666 Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:40 pm

well there's plenty of hills round me, so that should help (except getting back up them)

I think the cable that attaches to the handbrake is serviceable, just the other two at the rear that are shot

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