Road tax on your hijet

Mines.

Date of Liability 01 01 2014
Date of First Registration 04 10 2001
Year of Manufacture 2001
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1300cc
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type PETROL
Export Marker N
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour BLUE
Vehicle Type Approval Not Available
Vehicle Excise Duty rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £74.25
12 Months Rate £135.00

so to avoid the expensive tax band.. avoid vans reg between 2001- 2003...?

Read through all of it, it's not as simple as that.

Just do a dvla road tax web enquiry on every number plate you have a look at.

Its more of a lottery than logical reason.

Basically most later vans will be dear, mine's is the only van post X reg i've seen with the cheaper tax, all others were MPV's(and Piaggios) but cheepies are out there. As HJ says, check with the DVLA.

Mines a Aug 2001 and £210

Hi Logi, you say (and Piaggios) - my 10/03/03 reg van has Piaggio on the manufacturers plate, does that give me a thread of hope. Was the Piaggio version euro 4 compliant. Do you happen to know the appropriate Piaggio web site to contact to request a cert of conformance?

Sorry, it was Piaggio MPV's i meant.

Mine is 1.3 van registered 13/03/03. Tried to reduce the tax at the tax office, they said I needed a letter from Diahatsu to confirm its compliance, spoke to a guy at Diahatsu UK who seemed to know all about it, he said they were only Eur 3 compliant not Eur 4 as required to get the reduced tax. So today I gave up and forked out £220 but what had been going through my head was what did they fail on? If for instance it was Co2 could we reduce it and get a type approval. Well if the experts at Diahatsu could not do it I doubt we could unless... we sacrifice some power? Could we (you) come up with a temporary Euro 4 compliant tune up? I have no idea what it would cost to submit each van for testing, I suppose it depends on wether they want to do a full compliance test which would be prohibitive or wether they would just test the item(s) which were originally non-compliant.

lizzyandbeth wrote:Hi Logi, you say (and Piaggios) - my 10/03/03 reg van has Piaggio on the manufacturers plate, does that give me a thread of hope. Was the Piaggio version euro 4 compliant. Do you happen to know the appropriate Piaggio web site to contact to request a cert of conformance?

All the UK hijets I've seen have Piaggio on the vin plate, because they were manufactured under licence by Piaggio.

I'm not sure getting them to be compliant would feasible at a guess. I'm not sure of the goal posts really.

So to fit into:-

Euro 4 light goods vehicles (TC36)
Registered between 1 March 2003 and 31 December 2006 and not over 3,500kg revenue weight.
Vehicle 12 months rate 6 months
Euro 4 light goods vehicles £135.00 £74.25

To meet Euro 4 (2005) for any vehicle - 98/69/EC (& 2002/80/EC)

European emission standards for light commercial vehicles 1305 kg – 1760 kg (Category N1-II), g/km

Euro 4 - January 2006 CO 0.63 - NOx 0.33 - HC+NOx 0.39 - PM 0.04 (g/km)


The 1.3 piaggio porter meets euro 5 spec with:-
CO 0.333 NOx 0.015 CO2 164g/km

But it is 1308cc where all of mine are 1295cc, so I'm not sure if they have altered the engine.

I will study the late model manuals I have to see what the engine is like. But in all honesty even if you did a conversion I don't think you could provide the proof the dvla requires to re-band easily.

In Italy mine is a "truck", and I pay only 25€ of road tax.
If it is a "car", with that power, I pay less than 100€.

I know this is really digging up the archives, but I found some new information on the Piaggio Porter Wikipedia page that goes some way to explain the Euro status of the vans.

In 2006 the Euro 4 petrol version was presented which, thanks to the integration of the Japanese Daihatsu system with a control unit produced by the Italian CF3000, manages to overcome the new stringent emission limits. At the same time, the marketing of the version with diesel engine ceases.

Exciting stuff, huh. Mine is an 07 Euro4 and I wish it was an 06. Or that I'd bought a totally different van. Mixed feelings about that one.

Looks like they used this different ECU on these later Piaggio ones.
Bet they have bigger catalytic converters and maybe more modern injectors with better spray patterns.
It actually has the same connector plugs as the Denso ECU on the Hijets from 2001 onward with the ODB2 port
Looks like it was made my some small italian firm just to keep the Piaggio Porter in the market.

Aha, there it is! I wonder how differently they drive with the Denso ecu. My injectors are maroon and have significantly more holes in the ejaculation end than the orange ones I took off a '98 engine, but I don't think they are a different part to the pre-2006 ones, when I was looking.

I have happy memories of hiring a Fiat 500 and getting stuck at the bottom of a steep hill because the engine management wouldn't allow enough power to be produced to get moving. Later on I heard from someone who had chatted to a dealer that fiat had changed the map to meet the latest euro standard and people were having problems getting going on hills. You would have thought in Italy it would be no.1 priority to be able to get started on a hill.