Road tax on your hijet
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Road tax on your hijet
Hello
Looking for a Hijet Pickup for my next car, one with the LPG system would be my ideal find.
Road tax wise I'd like to make sure I pay:-
I really do not want to pay:-
I'm interested to find out who pays what, and what their year, body type, first manufactured date is, or whatever else you may know of the subject?
Looking for a Hijet Pickup for my next car, one with the LPG system would be my ideal find.
Road tax wise I'd like to make sure I pay:-
Cars registered before 1 March 2001 (based on engine size)
Private/light goods (TC11) 12 months rate
Engine size (cc) Not over 1549
£130.00
I really do not want to pay:-
Light goods vehicles (TC39)
Registered on or after 1 March 2001 (not over 3,500kg revenue weight).
12 months rate
£210.00
I'm interested to find out who pays what, and what their year, body type, first manufactured date is, or whatever else you may know of the subject?
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HighlyJetted wrote:HelloCars registered before 1 March 2001 (based on engine size)
Private/light goods (TC11) 12 months rate
Engine size (cc) Not over 1549
£130.00
Ours is a 1995 MPV 993cc petrol only and was £112 last time it came through for a year.
Re: Road tax on your hijet
mines the 993 EFI 1995 MPV petrol & 6months is £73 odd
leopard_pagan- Admin
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Re: Road tax on your hijet
1995 & 1998 993 vans both at £130pa
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Re: Road tax on your hijet
1300 efi, van, 2001 on an X reg, £130 a year.
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Logi, dont suppose you know your 1st registered and manufactured dates?
Has anybody known of anyone that has a Hijet/porter that is taxed on the CO2 figures?
I've had a heated debate with a seller of an 04 plate Hijet that he was claiming was £120 to tax for the year... I really like the van but i'm pretty sure its in the £210 class as it had no CO2 figures on the v5c nor any tax disks to prove otherwise. I'm buying a van to keep for a long time, and it really gets my back up paying road tax
Has anybody known of anyone that has a Hijet/porter that is taxed on the CO2 figures?
I've had a heated debate with a seller of an 04 plate Hijet that he was claiming was £120 to tax for the year... I really like the van but i'm pretty sure its in the £210 class as it had no CO2 figures on the v5c nor any tax disks to prove otherwise. I'm buying a van to keep for a long time, and it really gets my back up paying road tax
Re: Road tax on your hijet
Mine's one of the last cheap(er ) tax 2001 ones, one of the reasons i bought it. Check the reg on the DVLA site, it'll tell you the road tax. i thought all the newer ones were dearer but i checked an 06 Porter on Ebay recently and it was cheaper (though it's the only one i've seen)
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993cc efi MPV 1996 PLG mar-feb £125
Last edited by bushwhacker on Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:56 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : forgot year of registration)
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I'm off to look at another hijet
Another 1.3 LPG pick up in white, 2002 though, but its a bargain with only 16k miles on the clock.
Although I have a feeling there's something dodgy or damaged with it, but its worth a look being 20 miles away and small money.
Wish me luck!
Another 1.3 LPG pick up in white, 2002 though, but its a bargain with only 16k miles on the clock.
Although I have a feeling there's something dodgy or damaged with it, but its worth a look being 20 miles away and small money.
Wish me luck!
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Waste of sunday morning and petrol.
Daihatsu Hijet 16v efi lpg 2002
Colour White
Engine size 1,296 cc
Mileage 16k miles
There are no pictures of the passenger side because the A pillar has been badly welded back together for some reason and the B pillar/cab back has some really odd bends, body filler and paint. No way does it have 16k miles. More like 100k and some. Cab is a mess, chassis is rough and the drop sides are bent and badly resprayed.
Daihatsu Hijet 16v efi lpg 2002
Colour White
Engine size 1,296 cc
Mileage 16k miles
There are no pictures of the passenger side because the A pillar has been badly welded back together for some reason and the B pillar/cab back has some really odd bends, body filler and paint. No way does it have 16k miles. More like 100k and some. Cab is a mess, chassis is rough and the drop sides are bent and badly resprayed.
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That's a pisser, i hate going to see stuff advertised as mint, walk past a pile of s&!t, to ask the guy where the nice one is cos i'd hate to have wasted time and money .......
TBH, mine was originally advertised from a dealer for £1395 and "very tidy, gleaming blue paintwork". I saw rusty, not tidy at all, no brakes, petrol leaking, and a flat battery. As i'd gone to see it at an auction where it'd failed to sell twice i made a much more sensible offer and Hijet was Myjet
TBH, mine was originally advertised from a dealer for £1395 and "very tidy, gleaming blue paintwork". I saw rusty, not tidy at all, no brakes, petrol leaking, and a flat battery. As i'd gone to see it at an auction where it'd failed to sell twice i made a much more sensible offer and Hijet was Myjet
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Thought i'd add the stuff from the Introduce yourself thread hijack onto this:--
Looks like commercials between 31st December 2006 and 1st January 2009 fall out of the early class TC36 and later class TC36 - making it fall into the TC39 class.
Confused? Yeah, me too!
Anyone fancy trying to work out how the MPV's are tax rated?
Light goods vehicles (TC39)
Registered on or after 1 March 2001 (not over 3,500kg revenue weight).
Vehicle
12 months rate
6 months rate
Light goods vehicle
£210.00
£115.50
Euro 4 light goods vehicles (TC36)
Registered between 1 March 2003 and 31 December 2006 only (not over 3,500kg revenue weight).
Vehicle
12 months rate
6 months rate
Euro 4 light goods vehicles
£130.00
£71.50
Euro 5 light goods vehicles (TC36)
Registered between 1 January 2009 and 31 December 2010 only (not over 3,500kg revenue weight).
Vehicle
12 months rate
6 months rate
Euro 5 light goods vehicles
£130.00
£71.50
Looks like commercials between 31st December 2006 and 1st January 2009 fall out of the early class TC36 and later class TC36 - making it fall into the TC39 class.
Confused? Yeah, me too!
Anyone fancy trying to work out how the MPV's are tax rated?
Re: Road tax on your hijet
Here's a van, 2005, still dear tax?
The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for CU54 FFE are:
Date of Liability 01 09 2011
Date of First Registration 06 01 2005
Year of Manufacture 2005
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1296CC
CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Due to Expire
Vehicle Colour WHITE
Vehicle Type Approval N1
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £115.50
12 Months Rate £210.00
The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for CU54 FFE are:
Date of Liability 01 09 2011
Date of First Registration 06 01 2005
Year of Manufacture 2005
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1296CC
CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Due to Expire
Vehicle Colour WHITE
Vehicle Type Approval N1
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £115.50
12 Months Rate £210.00
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Deisel, 2005, still dear
The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for WX55 CEU are:
Date of Liability 01 02 2011
Date of First Registration 20 10 2005
Year of Manufacture 2005
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1371CC
CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
Fuel Type Heavy Oil
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour RED
Vehicle Type Approval N1
This vehicle can be licensed at a DVLA Local Office without the V5C Registration Certificate
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £115.50
12 Months Rate £210.00
The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for WX55 CEU are:
Date of Liability 01 02 2011
Date of First Registration 20 10 2005
Year of Manufacture 2005
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1371CC
CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
Fuel Type Heavy Oil
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Unlicensed
Vehicle Colour RED
Vehicle Type Approval N1
This vehicle can be licensed at a DVLA Local Office without the V5C Registration Certificate
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £115.50
12 Months Rate £210.00
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They have been registered wrong I bet. Dealerships more often than no haven't got a clue half the time.
They both belong in TC36 surely by the rules in the direct.gov website. I wonder if you can write to the DVLA and get it corrected?
Read this:- http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=70948
and this http://www.parkers.co.uk/News/Road-tax/DVLA-stumped-by-new-road-tax-rules/
They both belong in TC36 surely by the rules in the direct.gov website. I wonder if you can write to the DVLA and get it corrected?
Read this:- http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=70948
and this http://www.parkers.co.uk/News/Road-tax/DVLA-stumped-by-new-road-tax-rules/
Re: Road tax on your hijet
HighlyJetted wrote:
Anyone fancy trying to work out how the MPV's are tax rated?
Badly
Minibus, lpg too
The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for FY03 EAM are:
Date of Liability 01 10 2011
Date of First Registration 31 03 2003
Year of Manufacture 2003
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1296CC
CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Due to Expire
Vehicle Colour BLUE
Vehicle Type Approval N1
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £115.50
12 Months Rate £210.00
Shame too, it's on Scumtree and looks appealing
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/daihatsu-hijet-03-reg-swap-for-something-bigger/88410638
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Well thats well wrong, because class N1 is light goods vehicle under 3500kg. And its an MPV making it a car.
But I think the dealerships have a problem, I don't think piaggio / daihatsu have got any CO2 emission figures for these machines, thus they cannot register them as a car under the CO2 banding tax rules.
See if you can find one Logi that has been CO2 tax rated, I have a suspicion there are non, and if there is they could all get re-banded into the cheaper class.
But I think the dealerships have a problem, I don't think piaggio / daihatsu have got any CO2 emission figures for these machines, thus they cannot register them as a car under the CO2 banding tax rules.
See if you can find one Logi that has been CO2 tax rated, I have a suspicion there are non, and if there is they could all get re-banded into the cheaper class.
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I have a Hijet brochure at home, about 2006, and I am sure it says something to the effect that an MPV is a conversion of a van registered as a commercial vehicle.
I also seem to remember a thread on the Daihatsu Drivers site about funny tax groupings for things like camper conversions and how they could be put right. However, I haven't looked for a while and couldn't say where it is on the site. (The gist I think was that the manufacturer, or importer, should have provided some form of conformity information which it would seem that Piaggio did not do. This did not apply to 1 litre MPVs though, I checked the DVLA site the other day and where your examples show 'N1' mine shows a blank).
It is a shame though that the DVLA site doesn't show the actual tax band name as well, rather than just the amount due. That would make it easier to compare.
I also seem to remember a thread on the Daihatsu Drivers site about funny tax groupings for things like camper conversions and how they could be put right. However, I haven't looked for a while and couldn't say where it is on the site. (The gist I think was that the manufacturer, or importer, should have provided some form of conformity information which it would seem that Piaggio did not do. This did not apply to 1 litre MPVs though, I checked the DVLA site the other day and where your examples show 'N1' mine shows a blank).
It is a shame though that the DVLA site doesn't show the actual tax band name as well, rather than just the amount due. That would make it easier to compare.
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bushwhacker wrote:I have a Hijet brochure at home, about 2006, and I am sure it says something to the effect that an MPV is a conversion of a van registered as a commercial vehicle.
I also seem to remember a thread on the Daihatsu Drivers site about funny tax groupings for things like camper conversions and how they could be put right. However, I haven't looked for a while and couldn't say where it is on the site. (The gist I think was that the manufacturer, or importer, should have provided some form of conformity information which it would seem that Piaggio did not do. This did not apply to 1 litre MPVs though, I checked the DVLA site the other day and where your examples show 'N1' mine shows a blank).
It is a shame though that the DVLA site doesn't show the actual tax band name as well, rather than just the amount due. That would make it easier to compare.
That makes a lot of sense, so it would seem that Daihatsu are on the dodge so to speak, and because of such the owners get dumped into expensive tax bands. So it would seem there are three best buy hijets as road tax is concerned, but I'd check each vehicle as Logi's example below fouls the DVLA's own rules:-
Pre March 2001,
1st March 2003 to 31st December 2006 (TC36)
1st January 2009 to 31st December 2010 (TC36)
But this example that logi printed up, doesn't make sense one bit as it should blatantly in be in TC36, where its being charged at TC39 :-
The vehicle details for CU54 FFE are:
Date of Liability 01 09 2011
Date of First Registration 06 01 2005
Year of Manufacture 2005
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1296CC
CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Due to Expire
Vehicle Colour WHITE
Vehicle Type Approval N1
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £115.50
12 Months Rate £210.00
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TBH i checked a number of vans when i was looking for mine last year, as the road tax thing was a major consideration as i already own 3 cars and give the government more than enough of my hard earned. I only found one that came in cheaper after 2001, it seems to be the majority are the higher band. It's annoying for me as myjet is fairly rusty and ideally i'd like a decent shell rather than welding this up time & time again.
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From what i've read, if you have a car in the wrong class the dvla will change it, but not back date any over payments the stingy twerps.
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MPV, still high banding, looks like i'm deffo welding mine this winter
The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for WK02 ACT are:
Date of Liability 01 03 2012
Date of First Registration 28 06 2002
Year of Manufacture 2002
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1296CC
CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour WHITE
Vehicle Type Approval N1
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £115.50
12 Months Rate £210.00
The enquiry is complete
The vehicle details for WK02 ACT are:
Date of Liability 01 03 2012
Date of First Registration 28 06 2002
Year of Manufacture 2002
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1296CC
CO2 Emissions 0g/Km
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour WHITE
Vehicle Type Approval N1
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £115.50
12 Months Rate £210.00
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A few more on Ebay today, all dear tax again.
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WOO - HOO found one, newer & less expensive
They do exist
Vehicle enquiry
The enquiry is complete.The vehicle details for KX56 OCF are:
Date of Liability
01 11 2012
Date of First Registration
15 11 2006
Year of Manufacture
2006
Cylinder Capacity (cc)
1300cc
CO2 Emissions
0g/Km
Fuel Type
PETROL
Export Marker
N
Vehicle Status
SORN Not Due
Vehicle Colour
WHITE
Vehicle Type Approval
N1
Vehicle Excise Duty rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate
£71.50
12 Months Rate
£130.00
Please be aware that if the vehicle has recently been relicensed or a SORN declared, these details may not yet be updated on the vehicle record.
They do exist
Vehicle enquiry
The enquiry is complete.The vehicle details for KX56 OCF are:
Date of Liability
01 11 2012
Date of First Registration
15 11 2006
Year of Manufacture
2006
Cylinder Capacity (cc)
1300cc
CO2 Emissions
0g/Km
Fuel Type
PETROL
Export Marker
N
Vehicle Status
SORN Not Due
Vehicle Colour
WHITE
Vehicle Type Approval
N1
Vehicle Excise Duty rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate
£71.50
12 Months Rate
£130.00
Please be aware that if the vehicle has recently been relicensed or a SORN declared, these details may not yet be updated on the vehicle record.
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Re: Road tax on your hijet
Theres something very funny about how all these hijets are registered, maybe they go into a big hat and get priced depending on the average menstrual cycle.
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They're probably ex council vans, they're sneaky bar stewards like that.
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I bought a March 2003 registered van believing it would be £130 but turns out it is £210 as everybody else seems to be experiencing. The logbook declares Co 0,964, HC 0,104, NOx 0,017, HC+NOx 0,121 and particulates blank. DVLA says I need a letter from Diahatsu (not a dealer) confirming that it is Euro 4 compliant, this is proving difficult as they have withdrawn from Europe. Has anybody already been down this route and if so what is the outcome please?
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Re: Road tax on your hijet
Don't think they are Euro emission standards compliant!
This is one of the reasons Daihatsu withdrew from europe as most of there product range had some kind of struggle meeting some form of euro regs like NCAP ratings, TUV in germany etc.
And since the biggest earner to Daihatsu must be selling engines to their mother company Toyota, and then Peugeot and Citreon I guess its no big issue to them.
This is one of the reasons Daihatsu withdrew from europe as most of there product range had some kind of struggle meeting some form of euro regs like NCAP ratings, TUV in germany etc.
And since the biggest earner to Daihatsu must be selling engines to their mother company Toyota, and then Peugeot and Citreon I guess its no big issue to them.
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This thread has just reminded me, mines a 51 and £130 road tax! Ill need to check my V5 tonight.
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I think it was only the later Piaggio Porters that became Euro 4 compliant. (Daihatsu engine though).
Incidentally, why have DVLA removed the tax amount from the 'Vehicle Enquiry' output? The last one I looked at was taxed but had no amount stated.
Incidentally, why have DVLA removed the tax amount from the 'Vehicle Enquiry' output? The last one I looked at was taxed but had no amount stated.
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