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Post by Lex_Michdebus Sun Oct 17, 2021 1:59 pm

I have two Daihatsu cars, one being the Hijet. I also have a Datsun, a Nissan and a Mitsubishi. For the Datsun I have a book that has drawings with all the parts and their part numbers. Even has every screw and gasket. For Nissan and Mitsubishi I use the website www.epc-data.com to find most of the part numbers. But where can I find a similar resource for Daihatsu part numbers?

I read about Daihatsu dealers using a computer with software. A friend of mine has a similar sort of software for Ford, only running on some old version of Windows, maybe Daihatsu did the same? Maybe I should try to contact old Daihatsu dealers in my area to get some answers, but it's Sunday, so might as well spend some time asking you guys.
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Post by Raggy Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:00 am

If you join the Daihatsu Piaggio owners page on FB there are full manuals and parts listing in the files area.
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Post by HighlyJetted Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:52 pm

Torrent "Microcat Daihatsu [08.2013]" this is for European Daihatsu dealers.

Then "daihstu_epc_jap_10.2008" this is a VMWare for japanese Daihatsu products.

If you make me a landing spot in a some google folder etc I will upload them.
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Post by Lex_Michdebus Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:42 am

HighlyJetted wrote:Torrent "Microcat Daihatsu [08.2013]" this is for European Daihatsu dealers.

Then "daihstu_epc_jap_10.2008" this is a VMWare for japanese Daihatsu products.

If you make me a landing spot in a some google folder etc I will upload them.

Alright! How big is it? I'll try to find something to put it in, give me a few minutes.

-edit- I never used this Google drive stuff before, but I think you can drop it in here:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1bh34pNef9yuB-o7jBkBcLj4hu15tdbqt?usp=sharing

As soon as it's in let me know, I'll take it offline again before internet bots start to upload pictures of my mom.
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Post by HighlyJetted Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:40 pm

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Post by Raggy Thu Oct 21, 2021 2:31 pm

You will need a 32bit Windows so probably w7 or below to run it though. Installed on XP fine
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Post by HighlyJetted Thu Oct 21, 2021 2:53 pm

Microcat, the Daihatsu dealers part system does not have the S80-S85 era Hijets on there.

Microcat does have later ones like the extol - S200 etc

Those S80-85 parts manuals were distributed via the old Microfiche transparencies, a legacy from the 80's and early 90's
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Post by Raggy Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:33 pm

Interesting all the same as some parts were shared, thanks for the upload.
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Post by Lex_Michdebus Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:18 am

HighlyJetted wrote:Microcat, the Daihatsu dealers part system does not have the S80-S85 era Hijets on there.

Microcat does have later ones like the extol - S200 etc

Those S80-85 parts manuals were distributed via the old Microfiche transparencies, a legacy from the 80's and early 90's

Thanks very much for the upload! I'll try to figure it out.

So there's no other way to get the S8# part catalog then to get a hold of the microfiche transes?
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Post by HighlyJetted Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:11 pm

Lex_Michdebus wrote:
HighlyJetted wrote:Microcat, the Daihatsu dealers part system does not have the S80-S85 era Hijets on there.

Microcat does have later ones like the extol - S200 etc

Those S80-85 parts manuals were distributed via the old Microfiche transparencies, a legacy from the 80's and early 90's

Thanks very much for the upload! I'll try to figure it out.

So there's no other way to get the S8# part catalog then to get a hold of the microfiche transes?

They are scanned here

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-EU12aMwyzOUzBKN1U1WV8wNjQ/view?usp=sharing&resourcekey=0-Hxo24Lll_yqN2BqqiYCjTQ
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Post by Lex_Michdebus Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:22 pm

HighlyJetted wrote:
Lex_Michdebus wrote:
HighlyJetted wrote:Microcat, the Daihatsu dealers part system does not have the S80-S85 era Hijets on there.

Microcat does have later ones like the extol - S200 etc

Those S80-85 parts manuals were distributed via the old Microfiche transparencies, a legacy from the 80's and early 90's

Thanks very much for the upload! I'll try to figure it out.

So there's no other way to get the S8# part catalog then to get a hold of the microfiche transes?

They are scanned here

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-EU12aMwyzOUzBKN1U1WV8wNjQ/view?usp=sharing&resourcekey=0-Hxo24Lll_yqN2BqqiYCjTQ

Yes! Thanks!

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Got a TinyXP machine running in VirtualBox (not compatible with the Virtual Machine files included unfortunately) and installed the Japanese ISO. That wasn't really something I could use unfortunately. Guess I need to install the Japanese characters in TinyXP and in my own brain... Now trying the Microcat.

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Mh, Microcat requires something special when it needs to be cracked... Looked into the command file, saw it deletes some .dll's in the System32 directory. I ran it, but no sigar. Maybe start the program once before running the command?

-edit3-

Kept asking about "mg23.dll", so I guess some programmer/cracker made a typo. I can't remember the name of the tool I used to use 20 yrs ago to edit .exe files... So I went into system32 and copied mg16.dll (the 32 was deleted earlier, guess I fucked that up, maybe has to do something with 16 or 32 bit colors?) and renamed the copy to mg23.dll. Replaced the mcdeu.exe in the MCDEU folder with the one in the crack folder on the disc. Now it wants me to log in... Took the mg16.dll from the crack folder and dropped it in the MCDEU folder replacing the original one. Also did that earlier in the System32 folder, not sure if that is also necessary. Clicked the Administration button and added a new user/passw, then used that to log in... I guess it's up and running now...

-edit4- Looking up my L501 with my VIN worked! Steep learning curve on this software. I never really came across car software that worked in an intuitive way... Probably a thing on my part, but I guess it's good enough for me if I ever need to look up some exotic part number on my car. Thanks for putting this out there HJ!
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Post by Raggy Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:35 am

Well done in sorting the mg23 issue out! I got that and tried a couple of things but lost patience and it was late. Will have a go at what you did and see how I get on.
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Post by HighlyJetted Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:50 am

Lex_Michdebus wrote:

copied mg16.dll  - and renamed the copy to mg23.dll.

Clicked the Administration button and added a new user/passw, then used that to log in.

Wink

Well done. You succeed in the challenge.

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Post by Lex_Michdebus Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:45 pm

Yeah this brought me back to the old days where you used a keyboard to make a computer 'do the thing'. Glad someone else can benefit from my misspent youth.

-edit- Remembered the application I used back then; Resource Hacker! Might dabble around in there for fun when/if I get back from Thailand. Thanks again!
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Post by PFM Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:49 pm

It was even easier back in the good ole days of programs running in DOS!

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Post by HighlyJetted Sat Oct 23, 2021 6:38 pm

I still only have desktop computers with keyboards and proper operating systems. I get mocked by my peers as I still have mouse mats!! Non of that tablet touch screen nonsense round here.

Pretty much all my PC's running linux, and lots of VMWare virtual boxes etc. No games, no shitty windows 10 or Mac OS, just hex/binary bashing... "Immunity Debugger" is good for cracking programs as you can jump over parts of the executable.

I think the Slavic/Russian guy that cracked that Daihatsu Microcat purposefully changed the DLL name in the exe, just so people have to work a little bit to get it running.
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Post by Lex_Michdebus Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:17 am

Did you figure out what the 16/32 difference stands for?

I don't know if DOS was easier. Maybe it was, but I was pretty glad to see multitasking and the use of the mouse in a GUI. Maybe the times were easier back then. Those old single task computers gave you an opportunity to wake up and grab some coffee while you were waiting for ghost images to be created or software to be installed... They didn't expect you to 'fix it' in 5 minutes.

I still use W10 because of software compatibility, but only on machines that came with the license I didn't pay for myself. All the rest is Ubuntu or Kali if I don't need software tied to W10. And of course something like a cracked W7 or TinyXP dual boot if I don't need to be tied to the internet. I bought a fake Delphi OBD cable thing and Nissan Datascan, those things won't work in Linux, we'll need to live with those facts of life unfortunately.

I played some Rollercoaster Tycoon the other day. Brought back memories and had a bit of fun "wasting" my time. Also saw a video of a guy uploading a "background picture" to his old Nokia. Then I remembered this whole era of flashing shit to my Nokia with a serial IR thing. Still have that (and the phones) laying around somewhere. A part of history that might just disappear when these new kids and their friendly to flash Android phones take over. I'll try immunity debugger if I decide to waste more time.

-edit- Mouse mats are pretty lame btw. I really hope you're not still using a mouse with one of those balls inside and a wire attached... A simple laser mouse doesn't need a mat anymore. Don't let the mat tell you where to put your mouse. You're an individual, you can decide that for yourself!
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Post by HighlyJetted Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:46 am

Chinese Delphi/Autocom is a very good starting point into the world of diagnostic tools. I'd bet for every 500 chinese fakes that have been sold, they only sold 1 genuine one. It is alot of functionality for your $40 or whatever.

I'm just guessing, but I think the 16/32 bit dynamic link library contains all the functions for Microcat to interact with its special security dongle. They started out as 25 pin serial dongle, then moved to USB dongle. The cracked MG16.dll always replies back that the dongle is present and legitimate, even without a dongle present. The 16 bit dll was probably the most simple to modify. It is probably a legacy from when Microcat was developed for Windows 95/98.
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Post by Lex_Michdebus Sun Oct 24, 2021 9:04 am

Nice work from the Russian guy. I don't have a car with OBD, so I almost never get to tinker with it. The L501 has a transponder in the key and it is a pain in my assholes because getting a copy is expensive. A friend of mine has got this Chinese key copy thing that I want to try that should be able to at least recognize the chip in the key (4d67 I read somewhere? Daihatsu is pretty good at keeping secrets). I tried to "see" the frequency with a Portapack HackRF but I couldn't, guess I should have made a proper antenna for it. Grabbing a laptop to figure it out was too much of a hassle for me. I'm not in a hurry.
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Post by HighlyJetted Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:56 pm

Ahh you have a Cuore! I used to have a TRXX-R4 Smile This was mine, maybe 6 years ago.

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To program a key....

You need to find this box under the dashboard:-

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Then open it up, and remove this eeprom chip:-

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Then read the data with eeprom/reader write tool.

Then you use cheap china tool/software called "EFfi Zedbull", which can write new keys to the eeprom.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143973659714

With this method, you can add transponder chip to most 2010 age cars very easily.


Otherwise if you want it doing, send me your keys and the immo box and I will do it for you.
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Post by Lex_Michdebus Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:26 am

That's a handy mobile post office! Mine is nothing fancy, just something very cheap to drive and to not get recognized when dogging... New brake pads were €12! This little thing is amazing. Feels like a go kart! It came with an extra set of wheels that fit the Hijet, rocking horse shit! Unfortunately not the exact same wheels as the Hijet, but still something to put on the Hijet if I ever decide to give the wheels a new powder coat.

And your info is that what I have been looking for for a long time now. This damn immobilize thing is impossible to get info on. Can you give some more info on how this system works? I have an eeprom programmer (TL866 something), might want to try stuff. I never got a black key with it, only one grey key.

The little red Chinese box you show me, that's the same thing my friend has to copy keys. Can't I just copy my grey key to a little transponder key thingy with one of these? Do I still need to desolder the chip and read it then?
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Post by HighlyJetted Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:34 am

I do not think you can copy the transponder of that type. Those transponders come pre-programmed with their own unique RF-ID, this ID has to be added to the table in the immo box.

You use the Zedbull to read the transponders ID, then use EFfi software with the zedbull plugged into the USB Virtual Serial port. Zedbull will ID your transponder, just put it in hole and press read, this will tell you chip type and mode and RFID.

I think you might be able to set all the data in EEPROM to all FF FF FF etc. Then immo box is virgin, then place paperclip in diagnostic plug, put 2 keys into ignition and it programs itself like from the factory.

Maybe buy a second hand immo box to play with. Transponder is ID67 / 4d67 / Crypto, which is a Toyota key format.

Yes mine was 4wd turbo silly thing, very crazy to drive, had the harry hockley rally spec ECU fitted so full boost and no speed or rev limiter. Could get round all the good dogging spots in one night easy.
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Post by PFM Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:43 am

HighlyJetted wrote: Could get round all the good dogging spots in one night easy.
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Post by Lex_Michdebus Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:24 pm

Damn, that 4wd sure is the top of the line isn't it? Wasn't it the same as in Gran Turismo on the Playstation?

I'm waiting for my visa to get into Thailand and I'm staying for 3 months, so I don't have time to try all this stuff. I'll get back to you next year for more info on that programming. That second hand box is a good idea to fuck around and find out. At least now I know what I'm looking for.
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Post by Hijetissues Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:11 pm

I’ve got a 2001 diahatsu Hijet that is having severe overheating problems. Need a mechanic who knows honeys to please help. I need to get it back on road.

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