Project Ernie
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EvaInNorfolk
oldie
d1noh
kentgpz11
difflock123
8bit-ash
rich the mechanic
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HighlyJetted
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Re: Project Ernie
8bit-ash wrote:2 painted, two ready to paint. Got to take some progress pics soon. Few new bits done.
Is the engine a secret or are you telling us what it is???
Unless it's changed again he said a 1.6 charade although he didn't mention a booster fan.
Re: Project Ernie
Correct, its actually out of a 1.6 efi Sportrak, but pretty much the same but slightly less power, 95bhp as standard. I'm holding off on a bike engine until I get round the lack of a decent cost effective reverse gear.
More of a quick fix "maybe" - and to test to see if you can do the conversion, I can't find anything on the internet about it being done before so it might be a waste of time, money and effort.
When you convert a charade from 1.3 to 1.6, you keep the original 1.3 ecu and just swap to the grey(?) injectors, fingers crossed. While I'm at it I will port out the hijet inlet manifold to the new head - which ever head has the biggest valves and cam, and mate the 1.6 throttle body to the 1.3 inlet manifold. Use the lightest flywheel probably the 1.3 one. Fit some sort of adjustable fuel pressure regulator so I can tweet it a bit. Port out the exhaust manifold. You know, build it nice, all clean, polished bits, and painted casings and mounts etc.
More of a quick fix "maybe" - and to test to see if you can do the conversion, I can't find anything on the internet about it being done before so it might be a waste of time, money and effort.
When you convert a charade from 1.3 to 1.6, you keep the original 1.3 ecu and just swap to the grey(?) injectors, fingers crossed. While I'm at it I will port out the hijet inlet manifold to the new head - which ever head has the biggest valves and cam, and mate the 1.6 throttle body to the 1.3 inlet manifold. Use the lightest flywheel probably the 1.3 one. Fit some sort of adjustable fuel pressure regulator so I can tweet it a bit. Port out the exhaust manifold. You know, build it nice, all clean, polished bits, and painted casings and mounts etc.
Re: Project Ernie
the polishing bug has bitten, tis going to be a shiny Jet methinks .
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Logi- Jet Warrior
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Re: Project Ernie
Ready for geek talk? Ok...
The hijet injectors are 12.2 ohm and look like this:-
While the sportrak injectors are 13.6 ohm look like this:-
So after some research it turns out that:-
Both have the same flow rating! When doing a charade conversion I read that you swap from the Green 160cc to the Greys 190cc injectors.
That is an increase of 30cc's, also to think scale, 180 over 160 = 1.1875 so times that by my 186cc = 220.875cc
So far the most accessable parts to meet my requirements are:-
195500-4430 from Mazda RX8 1.3 rotory 231bhp primary injectors. Only installed in pairs though.
or maybe a set of these from a early 1990's Mazda MX5 1.6
The hunt continues....
The hijet injectors are 12.2 ohm and look like this:-
While the sportrak injectors are 13.6 ohm look like this:-
So after some research it turns out that:-
Both have the same flow rating! When doing a charade conversion I read that you swap from the Green 160cc to the Greys 190cc injectors.
That is an increase of 30cc's, also to think scale, 180 over 160 = 1.1875 so times that by my 186cc = 220.875cc
So far the most accessable parts to meet my requirements are:-
195500-4430 from Mazda RX8 1.3 rotory 231bhp primary injectors. Only installed in pairs though.
or maybe a set of these from a early 1990's Mazda MX5 1.6
The hunt continues....
Re: Project Ernie
Lookin good, can't wait to see them on
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Re: Project Ernie
I'm sure Honda use similar low impedance injectors - or they did in some Civics in the 90s (I had a 1979 Honda Civic back in Oz ). Anything there to play with?
EvaInNorfolk- Centurion
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Re: Project Ernie
All the 1.5 1.6 1.8 civic/integra b and d series use 240cc injectors which are a little too big unfortunately as I have a few sets floating about.
I also have some R1 injectors and some CBR1000RR ones and these are way too big too.
I'm going for the MX5 injectors first as a place down the road has a second hand set for cheap.
I also have some R1 injectors and some CBR1000RR ones and these are way too big too.
I'm going for the MX5 injectors first as a place down the road has a second hand set for cheap.
Re: Project Ernie
Today I have collect a set of the MX5 1.6 blue injectors, which were quite a bargain and just half a mile down the road so it would have been rude not to have them really.
And I have stripped the 1.6 engine, so its now pending getting the old 1.3 engine out and comparing/swapping the right bits over.
If its even possible that is! I'm thinking of spending as little money and time as possible to see if I can get it in and working. If I blow £300 building this engine up with new this and that and it doesn't actually fit I'd be a bit gutted, nor could I get the money back out of it.
And I have stripped the 1.6 engine, so its now pending getting the old 1.3 engine out and comparing/swapping the right bits over.
If its even possible that is! I'm thinking of spending as little money and time as possible to see if I can get it in and working. If I blow £300 building this engine up with new this and that and it doesn't actually fit I'd be a bit gutted, nor could I get the money back out of it.
Re: Project Ernie
I'm sure there is supposed to be something under here?
doh! here it is
So you know, you can get to this stage single handed with the help of a few blocks of wood and a trolley jack, and I think that if I remove the inlet manifold and reduce some weight by removing the flywheel and clutch I'll be able to slide it under the chassis without any problems.
doh! here it is
So you know, you can get to this stage single handed with the help of a few blocks of wood and a trolley jack, and I think that if I remove the inlet manifold and reduce some weight by removing the flywheel and clutch I'll be able to slide it under the chassis without any problems.
Re: Project Ernie
You going to deal with some of that brown stuff that shouldn't be there first before you put it back together?
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Re: Project Ernie
Ok, leave it then. You'll regret it later though!
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Re: Project Ernie
Casting Marks
Sportrak 1.6 efi engine = HD block + 06 C head
Hijet 1.3 efi engine = HC block + 06 B head
Differences
Sportrak water pump pulley flange, but you can use the sportrak water pump and pulley, and it all lines up with the hijet crank pulley
Sportrak block has a drilled hole for a normal dipstick, requires blocking up
Rocker cover, need to use hijet rocker cover
Sump, very different! Need to use hijet sump, and oil pickup etc... will know more when I do it.
Water takeoff pipe fitting in the head is different, still having trouble removing it!
Water pipe fitting near the thermostat is different, same as above
Use from the Hijet:-
dizzy/cam sensor,
manifolds,
engine mounts,
flywheel/clutch and dust protector plate,
sump, dipstick and pickup,
rocker cover and coils,
crank pulley,
temp sensors,
water blocking plate near the head sensors,
Both water takeoff pipes - one in head, one next to thermostat housing
Hijet Intake side
Sportrak Intake side
Hijet Exhaust side
Sportrak Exhaust side
Sportrak 1.6 efi engine = HD block + 06 C head
Hijet 1.3 efi engine = HC block + 06 B head
Differences
Sportrak water pump pulley flange, but you can use the sportrak water pump and pulley, and it all lines up with the hijet crank pulley
Sportrak block has a drilled hole for a normal dipstick, requires blocking up
Rocker cover, need to use hijet rocker cover
Sump, very different! Need to use hijet sump, and oil pickup etc... will know more when I do it.
Water takeoff pipe fitting in the head is different, still having trouble removing it!
Water pipe fitting near the thermostat is different, same as above
Use from the Hijet:-
dizzy/cam sensor,
manifolds,
engine mounts,
flywheel/clutch and dust protector plate,
sump, dipstick and pickup,
rocker cover and coils,
crank pulley,
temp sensors,
water blocking plate near the head sensors,
Both water takeoff pipes - one in head, one next to thermostat housing
Hijet Intake side
Sportrak Intake side
Hijet Exhaust side
Sportrak Exhaust side
Re: Project Ernie
Does the head gasket match between the stock motor and the new one? just wondering if a head swap could be done to get a 16valve without the engine swap.
Re: Project Ernie
rich the mechanic wrote:Does the head gasket match between the stock motor and the new one? just wondering if a head swap could be done to get a 16valve without the engine swap.
Sure does, its exactly the same part for 1.3, 1.5 and 1.6
They all have a 76mm bore.
And that IS the 1.3 head, which is a 16v sohc. Which I am using.
The 1.3 has a bigger and longer cam profile than the 1.6 sportrak from my poor measurement/guess game.
Same sized valves and ports, same casting it would appear.
Re: Project Ernie
Well it all bolts together with a few tweaks here and there. Because the block is 10mm taller the brackets which mount the inlet manifold to the block don't line up, so they've been drilled out to make the bolt holes line up. You'll need to use a sportrak cam belt too as its a bit longer. Bunging up the hole for the sportrak dip stick was easy, turns out the bit of gear stick that I cut off has a taper that fits perfectly luck has it. You also need to move studs around for the oil pickup and the engine mounts. Nothing too tough really, just takes time. Plus the blue injectors from the MX5 are a bit longer, so you need to remove the studs and use some bolts or something with a few spacers, about 18mm worth.
Re: Project Ernie
That back end will be out in no time.
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Re: Project Ernie
HighlyJetted wrote:I need to pull my finger out with this
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Re: Project Ernie
So it looks like I need a new radiator, the metal claws which retain the end caps are rotten and in some places have started to open up a little bit. When it's hot they will seep a little water which will evaporate quickly thus never realising the fault.
plus you can see where the clotting agent has tried to seal the leaks at the bottom, this will be radweld or a similar product:-
Also one of the bottom radiator clips has cracked right in the middle.
Turns out I have a powerflow exhaust! If anyone wants it make me an offer...
And here is a copy of the hijets radiator/coolant filling and bleeding procedure....
plus you can see where the clotting agent has tried to seal the leaks at the bottom, this will be radweld or a similar product:-
Also one of the bottom radiator clips has cracked right in the middle.
Turns out I have a powerflow exhaust! If anyone wants it make me an offer...
And here is a copy of the hijets radiator/coolant filling and bleeding procedure....
Re: Project Ernie
I know you dream about these Matt so my gift to you today and the same site offers a 993cc rad for about £105 shipped.
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?carcode=1118696&parttype=1212
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?carcode=1118696&parttype=1212
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